Gidley: Bolton’s policies, priorities did not align with Trump


THE WHITE HOUSE COMING OUT NOW ON “OUTNUMBERED OVERTIME.” I’M HARRIS FAULKNER. A WEST WING CHANGE AMID REPORTS JOHN BOLTON DISAGREED WITH THE PRESIDENT’S PLANS TO HOLD TALKS WITH THE TALIBAN AT CAMP DAVID. PRESIDENT TRUMP ANNOUNCED THE BIG MOVE WITH BOLTON ON TWITTER. HERE IS THAT TWEET. “I INFORMED JOHN BOLTON LAST NIGHT THAT HIS SERVICES ARE NO LONGER NEEDED AT THE WHITE HOUSE. I DISAGREED STRONGLY WITH MANY OF HIS SUGGESTIONS, AS DID OTHERS IN THE ADMINISTRATION, AND THEY AN END THEREFORE, I ASKED FOR HIS RESIGNATION, WHICH WAS GIVEN THIS MORNING. I THANK HIM FOR SERVICES. I WILL NAME A NEW NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR NEXT WEEK.” FIRST DIRECTION, STRAIGHT FROM THE WHITE HOUSE. DEPUTY PRESS SECRETARY HOGAN GIDLEY JOINS ME NOW OUTSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE. HOGAN, WHAT HAPPENED SPECIFICALLY TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE JOHN BOLTON IS OUT TO?>>LOOK, IT’S VERY CLEAR THAT JOHN BOLTON’S POLICIES AND PRIORITIES DID NOT ALIGN WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP’S. THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS THE RIGHT TO PUT PEOPLE IN POSITIONS THAT AGREE WITH EXECUTING THE POLICIES THAT HE SEES FIT TO PROTECT HIS COUNTRY. ALSO, LAST NIGHT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES STATES ASK JOHN BOLTON TO TENDER HIS RESIGNATION. IT WAS DELIVERED TO THE PRESIDENT TODAY.>>Harris: AND WHY DOES JOHN BOLTON, THEN, COME PUBLIC WITH A DIFFERENT STORY? I’M CERTAIN YOU ARE PROBABLY HEARING ABOUT THE TWEET WHERE HE SAYS, NO, HE AND THE PRESIDENT HAD TALKED AND IF ANYTHING HAPPENED HE RESIGNED ON HIS OWN.>>LISTEN, I WON’T GET INTO THE BACK AND FORTH HERE, BUT THE FACT REMAINS THAT THE RESIGNATION WAS DELIVERED TODAY AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING FOR A NEW DIRECTOR.>>Harris: HOGAN, WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT KIND OF THE WAY THAT THE PRESIDENT DOES BUSINESS? IN TERMS OF TELEGRAPHING TO THE WORLD, “I WILL SIT DOWN WITH AN BUDDY TO GET A DEAL,” HE WANTS TO END OUR PRESENCE, AS MUCH AS IT IS, WITH THOUSANDS OF TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN. WAS WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH TALIBAN LEADERSHIP. BOLTON AND OTHERS DISAGREED WITH THAT. SOME REPUBLICANS BEEN VERY VOCAL IN THE LAST HOURS ABOUT THE CANCELLATION, THAT IT’S A GOOD THING THE MEETING ISN’T HAPPENING, BUT THEY DIDN’T LIKE THE FACT THAT IT WAS HAPPENING AT ALL. WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT THE PRESIDENT’S MODE OF HOW HE DOES BUSINESS IN THAT SENSE, AND THOSE PEOPLE ADVISING HIM?>>LISTEN — WHETHER IT’S BUILDING A WALL, A BILATERAL TRADE DEAL WITH JAPAN, RECORD-SETTING, WHETHER IT’S GETTING OUT OF THE JCPOA, THE HORRIBLE IRAN DEAL, WHATEVER HE WANTS TO DO. BUILDING A WALL, FOR EXAMPLE. ONLY IN WASHINGTON, D.C., WOULD IT BE AN ANOMALY THAT SOMEONE RUNS ON ISSUES, GETS ELECTED ON THOSE ISSUES, AND THEN WORKS TO CARRY OUT THOSE ISSUES. ONLY IN D.C. WOULD IT SURPRISE PEOPLE. THIS PRESIDENT IS MOVING FAST AND FURIOUS TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY, AT OUR SOUTHERN BORDER. HE ALSO WANTS TO CREATE TRADE DEALS AROUND THE GLOBE THAT PROTECT AMERICAN WORKERS, AMERICAN FARMERS AND RANCHERS, AMERICAN BUSINESSES, AND AMERICAN INDUSTRIES PAID ONLY HERE IN WASHINGTON IS THAT SHOCKING.>>Harris: WAS IT NOT HELPFUL TO HAVE SOMEONE WHOSE REPUTATION WOULD TELL YOU THAT HE WAS VERY HAWKISH ON THINGS? THE PRESIDENT JOKED AT ONE POINT THAT JOHN BOLTON JUST WANTS TO GO TO WAR.>>LISTEN, THE PRESIDENT WANTS PEOPLE TO DISAGREE WITH HIM AND I HAVE DEBATED IN FRONT OF HIM, BUT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, HE IS THE ONE WHO SETS THE POLICIES. ONCE HE MAKES THE DECISIONS, WE COME OUT UNTIL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT THAT DECISION IS. I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THIS — WHATEVER DONALD TRUMP DOES, IT’S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. YOU’VE SEEN THAT TIME AND TIME AGAIN. NO FURTHER THAN THE ECONOMY, FOR EXAMPLE. SEEING RECORD HIGHS WE NEVER THOUGHT POSSIBLE UNDER BARACK OBAMA. BUT THE PRESIDENT SET THE AGENDA AND WE JUST WORK OUT BEST HERE AT THE WHITE HOUSE FROM THE COMMUNICATION SHOP TO DELIVER THAT MESSAGE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.>>Harris: McMASTER, FLYNN, JOHN BOLTON, ALL OUT. SO NUMBER FOUR IS COMING FROM THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR. WHAT IS THE PRESIDENT LOOKING FOR IN THAT POSITION?>>AGAIN, HE WANTS SOMEONE WHO CAN CARRY OUT HIS AGENDA. HE RAN OUT OF GETTING OUT OF SOME OF THESE WARS WE BEEN IN FOR DECADES. WE’VE LOST COUNTLESS LIVES, ALL KINDS OF MONEY, THAT CAN’T EVEN BE TRACKED IN SOME INSTANCES. IT’S TRULY DISGUSTING HOW WE’VE GOTTEN THIS FAR. BUT THE PRESIDENT ALSO WANTS TO PROTECT OUR INTERESTS ACROSS THE GLOBE AND PROTECT UNITED STATES CITIZENS ABROAD. HE WILL DO THAT AT ALL COSTS. THAT’S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR BUT I DON’T HAVE THE ANNOUNCEMENT AT THIS TIME. THIS JUST OCCURRED.>>Harris: SURE. YOU UNDERSTAND THE TIMING WOULD BE ABOUT NEXT WEEK, FROM THE PRESIDENT’S TWEET. WHAT IS HAPPENING INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE RIGHT NOW, GETTING READY FOR SOME OF THE THINGS COMING DOWN THE PIKE? ON SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH THE 30TH OF THIS MONTH, THE U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY, A HUGE GATHERING OF WORLD LEADERS COMING TO NEW YORK CITY, THE PRESIDENT, I WOULD ASSUME COMMAND GETTING SET TO MAKE HIS ADDRESS AND WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. YOU NEED SOMEONE UP TO SPEED. JUST TODAY, THE AMBASSADOR TO THE U.N., THE NEW AMBASSADOR, WELCOMED IN HER POSITION.>>RIGHT. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT THIS POSITION, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT. BUT THE PRESIDENT IS PREPARED FOR ALL INEVITABILITIES. TODAY FOR EXAMPLE WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION, SOME BREAKING NEWS FOR YOU HERE ON YOUR BROADCAST. THE FACT THAT SECRETARY MNUCHIN AT THE TREASURY AND SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO ARE GOING TO TAKE THE PODIUM AT 1:30 AND DISCUSS SOME OF THE ACTIONS WE ARE GOING TO TAKE, RATHER ABROAD, TO INFLUENCE SOME OF THE BEHAVIOR AGAINST THE UNITED STATES. WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT BEHAVIOR. THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE BAD ACTORS ACROSS THE GLOBE. BUT HE’S NOT GOING TO SACRIFICE ANY OF THE AMERICAN PRINCIPLES TO DO THAT. HE WANTS HER BEHAVIOR TO CHANGE. WE HAVE PUT RECORD-SETTING SANCTIONS ON ALL TYPE OF MALIGNED ACTORS UP TO AND INCLUDING IRAN, RUSSIA, AND OTHERS. YOU WILL SEE MORE THAT TODAY. THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO CHANGE BEHAVIOR. THERE IS SO MUCH BURGEONING ECONOMIES ACROSS THE GLOBE, WHETHER IT’S NORTH KOREA, IRAN, BUT THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR. THE PRESIDENT HAS GOOD RELATIONSHIPS, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH CHAIRMAN KIM. BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM COME TO THE TABLE AND STOP WHAT THEY’RE DOING IN ORDER TO GET THE BENEFITS OF WHAT THEY CAN POTENTIALLY BE.>>Harris: I’M GOING TO SLOW YOU DOWN FOR US THE COMPUTER AND WANT TO GET THE NEWS IS THAT IS BREAKING AT 1:30 P.M. GIVE IT TO ME ONE MORE TIME.>>I DON’T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THE SPECIFICS OF THE PRESS CONFERENCE, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. FROM THE WHITE HOUSE BRIEFING ROOM.>>Harris: OKAY. I’M TAKING NOTES ON THAT. I WANT TO GET TO THIS — WE ARE HEARING NOW FROM SOME OF THE MEMBERS ON THE HILL, IN RESPONSE. THE LATEST OF THAT IS RAND PAUL. LET ME GET TO THAT. DR. RAND PAUL IS NOW HOLDING IMMEDIATE AVAILABILITY TO TALK ABOUT THIS. HE IS APPLAUDING THE REMOVAL OF JOHN BOLTON. WHAT KIND OF REACTION ARE YOU GETTING AT THE WHITE HOUSE FROM CAPITOL HILL? THIS JUST COMING IN FROM SENATOR PAUL.>>I’VE NOT SEEN ANY, QUITE FRANKLY. THIS NEWS JUST BROKE AND I CAME OUT TO TALK TO YOU. I’M NOT SURE. THEY WILL BE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS. THE OPINIONS WILL BE MADE WELL-KNOWN. THE FACT IS THE PRESIDENT MAKE THE DECISIONS, WE ALSO BET HIS PLEASURE, AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.>>Harris: ALL RIGHT. SOME OF WHAT’S BEING REPORTED TODAY, AS YOU KNOW, HOGAN, HAS TO DO WITH THAT TALIBAN LEADERSHIP MEETING THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED AT CAMP DAVID ON THE VERY WEEK OF 9/11’S COMMEMORATION. ON THE FRUSTRATION AMONG SOME REPUBLICANS. ADAM KINZINGER, CONGRESSMAN MICHAEL DEL MICHAEL WALTZ OF FLORIDA , SOME BEING VOCAL ABOUT THE FACT THAT SHOULDN’T HAVE HAPPENED. AND I WAS NOT GOING TO. WHAT IS THE PRESIDENT SAYING ABOUT THAT MEETING? THE VERY LATEST FROM HIM?>>LISTEN, HE HAS MADE HIS THOUGHTS KNOWN ON THIS. HE WANTS TO MEET WITH PEOPLE TO TRY AND CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR. THE FACT IS, WE HAVEN’T NEGOTIATED WITH THEIR HANDS TIED BEHIND OUR BACKS, HERE. WE HAD 1,000 DEATHS OVER THERE BECAUSE OF THE ENGAGEMENT THAT THIS PRESIDENT AUTHORIZED. AND WE ARE FIGHTING THE MALIGNED BEHAVIOR AND THE BAD ACTORS ACROSS THE GLOBE. IN THIS INSTANCE, IT’S NO DIFFERENT. THE FACT IS, OF SOME OF THESE FOLKS CAN CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR AND ACTUALLY FIX GOING ON IN THI AND ACTUALLY FIX GOING ON IN THR NATIONS. THAT’S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO HELP THEM DO. THE PRESIDENT ALSO SAW THAT THERE WAS NO NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, AND OTHER NEGOTIATIONS ARE DEAD. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD IN OTHER AREAS OTHER AREAS.>>Harris: ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO MOVE ON, IF WE CAN. BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN SOME RARE PUSHBACK FROM THE CIA OVER A CNN REPORT CLAIMING THAT THE AGENCY TOLD THE U.S. BY OUT OF RUSSIA, BECAUSE PRESIDENT TRUMP RISK EXPOSING THAT PERSON’S IDENTITY. THERE THEY ARE DESCRIBING IT AS “MISGUIDED AND CIVILLY FALSE.” WHEN ABSTRACTION IS WHAT?>>YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THAT. THEY ARE AN INTELLIGENCE AGENCY THAT REALLY GOES ON THE RECORD. BUT THIS REPORT FROM CNN WAS SO WRONG, IT FELT COMPELLED TO COME OUT AND CALL IT MISGUIDED FALSE. FROM THE MEDIA, THE HYPOCRISY THEY HAVE A SO EGREGIOUS TO TRY AND COME OUT AND SAY THIS PRESIDENT IS PUTTING LIVES IN DANGER WITH THE WAY HE HANDLES INFORMATION. CLASSIFIED OR NOT. THE THIS PERSON, WHERE THEIR LIVES, THE IDENTITY OF THEM AND THEIR FAMILY PAIR THIS IS SO DANGEROUS. TIME AND TIME AGAIN COME THE MEDIA FACES A CHOICE. THEY CAN USE IT ON THE SOURCES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT EXIST TO WRITE STORIES FULL OF INNUENDO AND RUMOR, OR THEY CAN TAKE THE ADVICE, THE ON THE RECORD STATEMENTS, FROM AN INTELLIGENCE AGENCY OR THE WHITE HOUSE. THIS HAPPENS TIME AND TIME AGAI AGAIN. I FIND IT IRONIC THAT THE MEDIA MALIGNED THE PRESIDENT THEN SAYS HE SHOULD LISTEN TO HIS INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES. AND THEN WHEN THAT VERY INTELLIGENCE AGENCY GOES ON THE RECORD, THEY IGNORE IT COMPLETELY TO PUSH THEIR OWN RADICAL AGENDA OF TAKING DOWN THIS ADMINISTRATION AND ATTACKING THIS PRESIDENT. IT’S DANGEROUS AND PUTTING LIVES AT RISK.>>Harris: IS THERE A DIVIDE BETWEEN THIS WHITE HOUSE AND ITS INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES?>>NO. THE PRESIDENT LISTENS TO ALL RELEVANT PLAYERS ANY TIME A DECISION HAS TO BE MADE. BUT HE ULTIMATELY MAKES THE DECISION. LET’S NOT FORGET, HE IS BEHOLDEN TO ONE GROUP IN THIS COUNTRY, THAT IS THE AMERICAN VOTER WHO PUT HIM IN OFFICE. HE HAS COME THROUGH AND SUCCEEDED AND WON ON ISSUE AFTER ISSUE, TIME AND TIME AGAIN. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT. WHEN HE RUNS ON AN ISSUE, GETS ELECTED ON THAT ISSUE, HE’S GOING TO DO EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO IMPLEMENT THAT ISSUE, TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, GROW OUR ECONOMY, TO BECOME A GLOBAL POWER ECONOMICALLY, AND HE HAS DONE THAT TO THIS POINT. AND WILL CONTINUE DOING SO AS YOU CLOSE OUT THE FIRST PART OF THIS TERM.>>Harris: USE AT 1:30 P.M., LESS THAN 20 MINUTES, THE NEWS CONFERENCE THERE IN THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS BRIEFING. IN FACT, WE ARE TOLD THAT AMBASSADOR JOHN BOLTON WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AT THAT MEETING. HE HAS LOST HIS JOB, HE’S GOING TO BE REPLACING SECRETARIES MIKE POMPEO AND STEVE MNUCHIN ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING IN HUMANS. WHAT HAVE WE HEARD AS HE GETS RID OF HIS NATIONAL SECURITY VISOR TODAY?>>YOU HEARD FROM A DIRECT THAN TWITTER. THAT’S AS FAR AS I PREPARED HE IS TO SAY HE’S GOING TO TALK TODAY. THERE MAYBE MORE THERE MAY BE MORE PRESS ENGAGEMENT. WE WILL MOVE FORWARD THAT WAY.>>Harris: HOGAN GIDLEY, GENEROUS WITH YOUR TIME AND IN ANSWERING ALL OF MY QUESTIONS,

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