‘The Five’ reacts to Trudeau’s blackface photo scandal


WE ARE IN NEW YORK CITY AND THIS IS “THE FIVE.” ANOTHER PROMINENT LIBERAL CAUGHT IN A RACIST PHOTO SCANDAL. CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN TRUDEAU FACING A FIRESTORM OVER WEARING A BLACK FACE IN A 2001 PHOTO. IT HAPPENED DURING AN ARABIAN KNIGHT THEMED PARTY AT A SCHOOL WHERE HE WAS A 29-YEAR-OLD TEACHER. TRUDEAU APOLOGIZING LAST NIGHT BUT THEN TWO MORE EXAMPLES EMERGED. ONE FROM HOSPITAL IN THE 1990S WHERE HE IS WEARING A WIG PERFORMING A JAMAICAN FOLK SONG AT A TALENT SHOW. THE OTHER A VIDEO SHOWING HIM IN BLACK FACE WAVING HIS HANDS AROUND AND STICKING HIS TONGUE OUT. TRUDY TRUDEAU FORCE TO APOLOGY GUIDE AGAIN THIS AFTERNOON. HE HIT ALL THE LIBERAL BUZZ WORDS INTERSECTIONALITY AND UNCONSCIOUS BIAS AND HE DIDN’T RULE OUT THAT THERE COULD BE MORE PHOTOS.>>I APPRECIATE CALLING IT MAKEUP BUT IT WAS BLACK FACE. AND THAT IS JUST NOT RIGHT. I DIDN’T SEE THAT FROM THE LAYERS OF PRIVILEGE THAT I HAVE. I AM WEARY OF BEING DEFINITIVE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THE RECENT PICTURES THAT CAME OUT I HAD NOT REMEMBERED.>>Jesse: THIS SCANDAL IS EXPOSING TRUDEAU’S OFF THE CHARTS HYPOCRISY. HE HAS FASHIONED HIMSELF AS THE PRIME MINISTER OF WOKE AND A LIBERAL FOR COUNTER WEIGHT TO PRESIDENT TRUMP. WATCH.>>I WILL KEEP SAYING I’M A FEMINIST UNTIL AS YOU SAY IT’S MET WITH YEAH, WE KNOW THAT MOVE ON. WE SHOULDN’T BE TALKING ABOUT TOLERANCE. WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE AND FRIENDSHIP AND RESPECT.>>WE SHOULDN’T BE AFRAID OF THE WORD FEMINIST. MEN AND WOMEN SHOULD USE IT TO DESCRIBE THEMSELVES ANY TIME THEY WANT.>>THE FUTURE OF MANKIND. SO WE WOULD LIKE.>>WE LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE KIND NOT NECESSARILY MANKIND. IT’S MORE INCLUSIVE. [LAUGHTER]>>Jesse: OKAY. JEDEDIAH, WENT FROM WOKE TO A JOKE IN ABOUT ONE NIGHT AND DO YOU THINK HE CAN SURVIVE?>>Jedediah: THIS GUY IS LAYERS DEEP OF INSUFFERABLE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SOME POLITICIANS ARE INSUFFERABLE. THIS GUY HAS LAYERS OF IT. IT’S CRAZY TO ME THIS THIRD INSTANCE, HE WAS 29 YEARS OLD. HE WAS A TEACHER. THAT’S A GROWN MAN. THAT’S NOT A STUDENT IN HIGH SCHOOL THAT CAN YOU SAY OH, YOU KNOW, I WAS AN IDIOT KID. YOU ARE 29 YEARS OLD. YOU ARE GROWN. AND YOU STILL DON’T KNOW. MY FAVORITE PART OF THIS IS THE QUOTE HE GIVES WHEN HE SAYS I DIDN’T CONSIDER IT RACIST AT THE TIME BUT NOW WE KNOW BETTER. THAT WAS IN 2001. IN — THIS WAS NOT A PHOTO THAT SOMEBODY TOOK IN 1960 OF SOMEONE WHERE YOU COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THE TIMES ARE DIFFERENT. PEOPLE DIDN’T REALIZE THE SEVERITY OF WHAT THEY WERE DOING. THEY DIDN’T REALIZE HOW OFFENSIVE IT WAS. IN 2001. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US AT THIS TABLE WAS AN ADULT IN 2001 WHO KNEW WELL AND GOOD ENOUGH THAT YOU DON’T PUT BLACK FACE ON AND BEHAVE THIS WAY AS A GROWN ADULT TEACHING ALSO YOU ARE A TEACHER WHAT KIND OF EXAMPLE ARE YOU SETTING? THIS GUY WITH ALL HIS P.C. NONSENSE AND ALWAYS TRYING TO SEEM SO WONDERFUL AND OH, I SUGAR COAT ALL MY WORDS NOT TO OFFEND ANYONE. HE IS BRACING US FOR MORE STUFF THAT’S COMING. HE WOULDN’T HAVE SAID THERE COULD BE MORE PHOTOS. I GUARANTEE THERE IS GOING TO SEE SOMETHING EVEN WORSE THAN THIS COMING DOWN THE PIKE.>>Jesse: SHOULD HE RESIGN, JUAN?>>Juan: NO. IT’S ALMOST LIKE AS A BLACK PERSON I SHOULD STAY OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION. I’M INTERESTED TO LEARN. BECAUSE I THINK WHAT JEDEDIAH SAID IS EXACTLY RIGHT. I THINK THAT IF YOU ARE 29 YEARS OLD, YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THINGS LIKE BIRTH OF A NATION AND MINSTREL SHOWS AND, YOU KNOW, DEPICTING THE OTHER MINORITIES AND IT COULD BE ORIENTALISM AS IT’S CALLED OR DEPICTING IRISH PEOPLE AS DRUNKS. YOU COULD GO ON WITH ALL THE LANGUAGE THAT WE IN AMERICA KNOW TOO WELL. BUT THE WHOLE IDEA IS THAT THE OTHER IS LAZY, DUMB, YOU KNOW, NOT A GOOD WORKER. NOT TO BE TRUSTED. AND IT’S ALL A BASIS FOR RACIST BEHAVIOR FOR EXCLUDING PEOPLE. AND, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM HERE IS I FIND IT SO INTERESTING, AS, YOU KNOW FROM, A POLITICAL ANALYST POINT OF VIEW, HE IS BEING ATTACKED IN CANADA AS NOT AS ADVERTISED. THAT IS THE SLOGAN BEING USED BY CONSERVATIVES IN CANADA TO ATTACK TRUDEAU DURING A VERY CLOSE RACE. I THINK THE ELECTION IS OCTOBER 21st. AND HE HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO MOVE AHEAD OF HIS CONSERVATIVE CHALLENGER. AND NOW THE QUESTION IS WHAT ABOUT THE LIBERALS IN CANADA? SO YOU DEPICT HIM AS A HYPOCRITE. BUT THE LIBERALS IN CANADA NOW START TO AGREE WITH THE CONSERVATIVES IN CANADA THAT WELL, MAYBE THIS GUY SHOULDN’T BE THE SWORD CARRIER FOR LIBERAL IDEOLOGY. HE PREVIOUSLY HAS MADE HIS CABINET, A CABINET THAT HE SAYS LOOKS LIKE CANADA. IT’S DIVERSE. IT’S ONE HALF WOMEN.>>Jesse: RIGHT.>>Jesse: IS HE FOR REAL?>>Jesse: YOU DON’T THINK HE SHOULD RESIGN. WHAT ABOUT IF REPUBLICAN POLITICIAN IN 2001 HAD A BLACK FACE LIKE THAT. DO YOU STILL THINK THEY SHOULD HANG ON AND FIGHT IT THE WAY TRUDEAU IS?>>Juan: NO, THAT’S A DIFFERENTIAL DYNAMIC, JESSE.>>Jesse: DIFFERENT DYNAMIC WHEN IT’S A DIFFERENT POLITICAL PARTY.>>Juan: IN THIS COUNTRY FOR SURE ARE YOU KIDDING? THAT’S WHY YOU ARE ASKING THE QUESTIONS.>>Jesse: WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS.>>Juan: REPUBLICANS WITH THIS PRESIDENT HAVE A DIFFICULT HISTORY AND DIFFERENT PATH WHEN IT COMES TO RACE.>>Jedediah: THAT’S NOT FAIR, JUAN.>>Jesse: REPUBLICAN PARTY IS THE ONE THAT FREED THE SLAVES.>>Jesse: REPUBLICAN IN ALABAMA IS STILL IN OFFICE.>>Jesse: I DISAGREE IT MATTERS IF IT’S REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT IT’S BAD NO MATTER WHICH PARTY DOES IT. DANA?>>Dana: THE ELECTION IS ALREADY VERY CLOSE. ASIDE FROM THIS INCIDENT THERE IS A BIG ETHICS SITUATION THAT’S BEEN DOGGING THE TRUDEAU INVESTIGATION FROM THE BEGINNING. SO FAR THE FRENCH MEDIA HAS STAYED VERY MUCH IN HIS CORNER. THAT’S WHERE HIS POLITICAL FOUNDATION IS UP IN THE QUEBEC AREA. REMEMBER, HE WAS KIND OF CANADA’S PRESIDENT OBAMA. HE WAS HOPE AND CHANGE. AND HE WAS THE POLITICAL DYNASTY OF THE TRUDEAUS. THE ENGLISH MEDIA, HOWEVER, IS REALLY GOING AFTER HIM VERY HARD. BUT, IF YOU THINK OF RALPH NORM, VIRGINIA, THE PEOPLE THERE HAVE PRETTY SHORT MEMORIES. IF YOU CAN ALL RIGHT STORM NORMENT IS LIKE I’M NOT REALLY SURE IF THAT’S ME. I DON’T REALLY KNOW. TRUDEAU HAS A DIFFERENT TACTIC I’M GOING TO GO ALL IN AND APOLOGIZE AND HOPE HE CAN GET THROUGH IT.>>Jesse: THAT WAS IN 18984 RALPH NORTHAM AND THIS IS IN 2001. THE SITUATION IS A LITTLE DIFFERENTIAL. WHAT DO YOU THINK HAVE YOU TRUDEAU AND SOME OF THESE HIGHLAND HOGHLAND HOLLLAND HOLLYWND HOLLYWOOD CELEBRITIES. ACTORS IN BLACK FACE ALWAYS THE MOST VOCAL PEOPLE WHEN ACCUSING OTHER PEOPLE OF BEING RACIST. CAN YOU ACCUSE SOMEONE OF BEING A RACIST IF YOU WEAR BLACK FACE? I DON’T THINK YOU CAN.>>Mike: IT WAS AMAZING TO WATCH THE MEDIA CONGRESS FEW AND THEN I MIGHT HAVE DONE DAO. SERIOUSLY YOU DID THE BANANA SONG? CRAZY. HE WASN’T EVEN DONE APOLOGIZING AND DON LEMON ON CNN ISN’T THAT NICE HE? APOLOGIZED. TRUMP WOULD NEVER APOLOGIZE. IT WAS INSANE. TRUMP COULD COME OUT OF A BURNING BUILDING CARRYING ORPHANS THEY WOULD BE LIKE WHY DID YOU START THE FIRE AND WHAT’S WITH THE BLACK ON THE FACE, DONALD. THE TRUDEAU THING, THERE IS MORE COMING. I GUARANTEE THERE IS MORE COMING.>>Dana: HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU DRESS UP AS AN ADULT.>>EXACTLY. BUDDY DRESSES UP LIKE A WOMAN HALLOWEEN AND DOES IT NEXT HALLOWEEN.>>Jesse: THERE IS A THING THERE.>>HE THINKS OF HIMSELF AS CANADA’S BARACK OBAMA. HE IS ACTUALLY CANADA’S BETO O’ROURKE. HE SOUNDS COMPLETELY PHONY AND/OR COMMITTEES STRAIGHTED. I DON’T BELIEVE ANYTHING HE TALKS ABOUT THIS NEED FOR DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION. I DON’T BELIEVE HIM WHEN HE SPEAKS HIS PAST AND WHAT YOU ARE SEEING AS A REALITY WHAT’S GOING ON IN HIS LIFE AS A GROWN ADULT MAN REFLECTS THAT BETO DOES THE SAME THING HERE. HE GETS UP ON THESE PODIUMS AND SAYS ALL THIS STUFF. YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE SITTING AT HOME AND SOMEBODY ELSE WROTE IT AND HE IS DELIVERING IT AND NOT AUTHENTIC. THAT’S HOW I HAVE ALWAYS FELT ABOUT THIS GUY AND HIS PAST IS PROVING IT TRUE.>>Juan: I’M ASSUMING IS HE SPEAK FROM THE HEART. I’M NOT GOING TO CALL THE GUY HYPOCRITE. HE SAYS UNCONSCIOUS RACISM SORT OF IMPLICIT CASUAL RACISM. HE JUST THOUGHT — HE DIDN’T UNDERSTAND HOW PRIVILEGED HE WAS AND HOW OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT INTERPRET THIS.>>Jedediah: 29?>>Jesse: JUAN, BE SERIOUS FOR A SECOND. IT’S 2001.>>Juan: RIGHT.>>Jesse: YOU CAN HAVE SO MUCH PRIVILEGE. YOU CAN HAVE PRIVILEGE COMING OUT OF YOUR EYEBALLS AND STILL KNOW THAT BLACK FACE IN 2001 NOT A GOOD MOVE.>>Juan: I AGREE.>>Mike: SUBCONSCIOUSLY WORK THROUGH THAT ISSUE ONLY BY DRESSING IN BLACK FACE CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THE RACISM.>>Juan: IF YOU ARE INVITED TO ARABIAN KNIGHT THEMED PARTY WOULD YOU SAY I BETTER BE CAREFUL?>>Dana: I WOULD GO AS A CAMEL.>>Jedediah: COUPLE HUMPS CLEAN. OR YOU WEAR THE ROBE, JUAN. YOU DON’T HAVE TO WATER BLACK FACE.>>Jedediah: DID HE THIS TWICE BEFORE AND IT OCCURRED TO HIM LET ME DO IT AGAIN.>>Dana: REMEMBER WHEN HE WAS PRIME MINISTER AND HE WENT TO INDIA AND HIS WHOLE FAMILY DRESSED UP IN INDIA

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